diff --git a/app/Http/Controllers/Api/ProjectCanvasController.php b/app/Http/Controllers/Api/ProjectCanvasController.php
index 534cd7f56a..7dd5e02b63 100644
--- a/app/Http/Controllers/Api/ProjectCanvasController.php
+++ b/app/Http/Controllers/Api/ProjectCanvasController.php
@@ -4,16 +4,20 @@ namespace App\Http\Controllers\Api;
 
 use App\Http\Controllers\Controller;
 use App\Models\Project;
+use App\Services\EnvironmentCanvas;
 use App\Services\ProjectCanvas;
 use Illuminate\Http\JsonResponse;
 use Illuminate\Http\Request;
+use Illuminate\Support\Facades\Validator;
 
 /**
  * Project canvas: the resources of every environment of one project (or of every project).
- * Moves and links are saved through EnvironmentCanvasController. Called by resources/js/environment-canvas.js through the /canvas/api session bridge.
+ * Moves of cards and links are saved through EnvironmentCanvasController; the projects canvas saves the place of a project here. Called by resources/js/environment-canvas.js through the /canvas/api session bridge.
  */
 class ProjectCanvasController extends Controller
 {
+    private const MAX_POSITIONS = 1000;
+
     public function __construct(private ProjectCanvas $canvas) {}
 
     public function index(Request $request): JsonResponse
@@ -41,6 +45,50 @@ class ProjectCanvasController extends Controller
         return response()->json($this->canvas->payload($project, (bool) $request->attributes->get('can_read_sensitive', false), $this->canEdit($request, (int) $project->team_id)));
     }
 
+    /**
+     * Saves the place of project zones on the projects canvas (top-left of each zone), keyed by project UUID.
+     */
+    public function updatePositions(Request $request): JsonResponse
+    {
+        $teamId = getTeamIdFromToken();
+        if (is_null($teamId)) {
+            return invalidTokenResponse();
+        }
+
+        $return = validateIncomingRequest($request);
+        if ($return instanceof JsonResponse) {
+            return $return;
+        }
+        $coordinateRule = ['required', 'integer', 'between:-'.EnvironmentCanvas::MAX_COORDINATE.','.EnvironmentCanvas::MAX_COORDINATE];
+        $validator = Validator::make($request->all(), [
+            'positions' => ['required', 'array', 'max:'.self::MAX_POSITIONS],
+            'positions.*' => ['required', 'array'],
+            'positions.*.x' => $coordinateRule,
+            'positions.*.y' => $coordinateRule,
+        ]);
+        if ($validator->fails()) {
+            return response()->json([
+                'message' => 'Validation failed.',
+                'errors' => $validator->errors(),
+            ], 422);
+        }
+
+        // Projects of other teams are left out, like unknown UUIDs.
+        $projects = Project::query()->whereTeamId($teamId)->whereIn('uuid', array_keys($request->input('positions')))->get();
+        foreach ($projects as $project) {
+            $this->authorize('update', $project);
+        }
+
+        $saved = [];
+        foreach ($projects as $project) {
+            $position = $request->input("positions.{$project->uuid}");
+            $project->canvas_position = $saved[$project->uuid] = ['x' => (int) $position['x'], 'y' => (int) $position['y']];
+            $project->save();
+        }
+
+        return response()->json(['positions' => (object) $saved]);
+    }
+
     /**
      * Same rule as the environment canvas: team admins with a write token move cards and draw links.
      */
diff --git a/app/Models/Project.php b/app/Models/Project.php
index 7df5ecad50..a32adf2a51 100644
--- a/app/Models/Project.php
+++ b/app/Models/Project.php
@@ -32,6 +32,15 @@ class Project extends BaseModel
         'uuid',
     ];
 
+    protected array $auditExclude = ['canvas_position'];
+
+    protected function casts(): array
+    {
+        return [
+            'canvas_position' => 'array',
+        ];
+    }
+
     /**
      * Get query builder for projects owned by current team.
      * If you need all projects without further query chaining, use ownedByCurrentTeamCached() instead.
diff --git a/app/Services/ProjectCanvas.php b/app/Services/ProjectCanvas.php
index 57619b2e30..602e23dbe5 100644
--- a/app/Services/ProjectCanvas.php
+++ b/app/Services/ProjectCanvas.php
@@ -20,11 +20,11 @@ class ProjectCanvas
     /**
      * The canvas of every project of a team: one zone per project, cards grouped by environment.
      *
-     * @return array{title: string, title_link: string, can_edit: bool, can_move: false, can_move_groups: bool, layout: 'server', zones: array<int, array<string, mixed>>, nodes: array<int, array<string, mixed>>, links: array<int, array<string, mixed>>, positions: array{}}
+     * @return array{title: string, title_link: string, can_edit: bool, can_move: false, can_move_groups: bool, can_move_zones: bool, layout: 'server', zones: array<int, array<string, mixed>>, nodes: array<int, array<string, mixed>>, links: array<int, array<string, mixed>>, positions: array{}}
      */
     public function teamPayload(int $teamId, bool $canReadSensitive, bool $canEdit = false): array
     {
-        $projects = Project::query()->where('team_id', $teamId)->orderBy('name')->get(['id', 'uuid', 'name', 'team_id']);
+        $projects = Project::query()->where('team_id', $teamId)->orderBy('name')->get(['id', 'uuid', 'name', 'team_id', 'canvas_position']);
         $environments = Environment::query()->whereIn('project_id', $projects->pluck('id'))
             ->orderBy('id')
             ->get(['id', 'uuid', 'name', 'project_id']);
@@ -48,6 +48,8 @@ class ProjectCanvas
             'can_move' => false,
             // Admins move groups and cards here; the canvas saves them on their environment canvas.
             'can_move_groups' => $canEdit,
+            // Admins move the project zones; each project saves its place (zone.position).
+            'can_move_zones' => $canEdit,
             // Same grouped layout as the server canvas, with projects as the zones.
             'layout' => 'server',
             'zones' => $projects->map(fn (Project $project) => [
@@ -55,6 +57,7 @@ class ProjectCanvas
                 'name' => $project->name,
                 'icon' => 'projects',
                 'link' => route('project.show', ['project_uuid' => $project->uuid]),
+                'position' => $this->position($project->canvas_position),
             ])->values()->all(),
             'nodes' => collect($graph['nodes'])->map(fn (array $node) => [...$node, ...$grouping->get($node['id'])])
                 ->concat($projects->flatMap(fn (Project $project) => $this->emptyNodes($project, $environments->where('project_id', $project->id), $resources, $project->uuid, $canEdit)))
@@ -121,6 +124,18 @@ class ProjectCanvas
             ->values();
     }
 
+    /**
+     * A saved project zone position, or null when the zone is auto placed.
+     *
+     * @return array{x: int, y: int}|null
+     */
+    private function position(mixed $saved): ?array
+    {
+        return is_array($saved) && is_numeric($saved['x'] ?? null) && is_numeric($saved['y'] ?? null)
+            ? ['x' => (int) $saved['x'], 'y' => (int) $saved['y']]
+            : null;
+    }
+
     /**
      * Project and environment of a card: the canvas saves links on that environment canvas.
      *
diff --git a/app/Services/ServerTransfer/ServerTransferCoverage.php b/app/Services/ServerTransfer/ServerTransferCoverage.php
index 1c615e304d..c37bf61382 100644
--- a/app/Services/ServerTransfer/ServerTransferCoverage.php
+++ b/app/Services/ServerTransfer/ServerTransferCoverage.php
@@ -221,6 +221,7 @@ final class ServerTransferCoverage
             'icon_path' => 'The icon file is exported as `icon` (base64 content). The target stores it in its own icon storage and sets the path.',
             'icon_storage_type' => 'The target uses its own default icon storage. See icon_path.',
             'icon_s3_storage_id' => 'The target uses its own default icon storage. See icon_path.',
+            'canvas_position' => 'Place of the project on the projects canvas of the source; the target places it with its own projects.',
         ],
         Environment::class => ['project_id' => self::LINKED],
         ResourceLink::class => [
diff --git a/database/migrations/2026_10_23_182201_add_canvas_position_to_projects_table.php b/database/migrations/2026_10_23_182201_add_canvas_position_to_projects_table.php
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..e7642e0821
--- /dev/null
+++ b/database/migrations/2026_10_23_182201_add_canvas_position_to_projects_table.php
@@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
+<?php
+
+use Illuminate\Database\Migrations\Migration;
+use Illuminate\Database\Schema\Blueprint;
+use Illuminate\Support\Facades\Schema;
+
+return new class extends Migration
+{
+    public function up(): void
+    {
+        Schema::table('projects', function (Blueprint $table) {
+            $table->json('canvas_position')->nullable();
+        });
+    }
+
+    public function down(): void
+    {
+        Schema::table('projects', function (Blueprint $table) {
+            $table->dropColumn('canvas_position');
+        });
+    }
+};
diff --git a/resources/js/canvas/environment/EnvironmentCanvas.svelte b/resources/js/canvas/environment/EnvironmentCanvas.svelte
index f5f70d76ad..d6690c9632 100644
--- a/resources/js/canvas/environment/EnvironmentCanvas.svelte
+++ b/resources/js/canvas/environment/EnvironmentCanvas.svelte
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
   // The server canvas (data-endpoint) reuses this view. It saves moves and links on the environment canvas of each card.
   // The shared variables and tags canvases (data-mode) reuse it too: their links add a variable or a tag to a resource.
   import { flushSync, onMount, tick } from 'svelte';
-  import { api, BOX_GAP, freeSpot, panZoom } from '../../canvas-core.js';
+  import { api, apart, BOX_GAP, freeSpot, panZoom } from '../../canvas-core.js';
   import {
     canConnect,
     canLink,
@@ -31,8 +31,10 @@
     readView,
     STATUS_CHANNELS,
     unreachableZones,
+    ZONE_PADDING,
     zoneBoxes,
     zoneGroups,
+    zoneHeader,
   } from '../../environment-canvas.js';
   import Card from './Card.svelte';
   import Deployments from './Deployments.svelte';
@@ -89,7 +91,7 @@
   const unsaved = {};
   // Saved moves stay on the canvas until a load that started after the save returns them, so an older
   // response (a poll or status refresh during the drag or the request) cannot put the cards back for a moment.
-  const settling = { positions: {}, saved: {} }; // id -> { at, after: load number the save finished at }
+  const settling = { positions: {}, saved: {}, zones: {} }; // id -> { at, after: load number the save finished at }
   let loads = 0;
   let reloadQueued = false;
   let fitted = false;
@@ -118,6 +120,9 @@
   /** Server view: key of the card's group when the card can be moved there (it is saved on its environment canvas). */
   const movableGroupOf = node => (canMoveGroups && node ? groupKey([node], node.zone) : null);
   let groupMeta = {}; // server view: frame top-left and zone inner top-left per group key (see layoutServerView)
+  // Projects canvas: admins drag the project zones; each project saves the zone's top-left (zone.position).
+  const canMoveZones = $derived(canEdit && !!graph?.can_move_zones);
+  let zoneOrigins = {}; // server view: top-left per zone id (see layoutServerView)
   // Environment canvas endpoints of a card (the server view has no endpoints of its own for changes).
   const environmentBase = node => (serverView
     ? `/projects/${encodeURIComponent(node?.project?.uuid || '')}/environments/${encodeURIComponent(node?.environment?.uuid || '')}/canvas`
@@ -315,7 +320,7 @@
         clearTimeout(timers.view);
         timers.view = setTimeout(saveView, 300);
       },
-      canPan: e => !e.target.closest('[data-ec-card],[data-ec-zone-header],[data-ec-group-header],[data-ec-label],[data-ec-link],a,button,input'),
+      canPan: e => !e.target.closest('[data-ec-card],[data-ec-zone-header],[data-ec-zone-drag],[data-ec-group-header],[data-ec-label],[data-ec-link],a,button,input'),
       onPanEnd: moved => {
         if (!moved) closePanel();
       },
@@ -510,7 +515,7 @@
   }
 
   function startZoneDrag(box, header, e) {
-    if (e.button !== 0 || !canMove || e.target.closest('a')) return;
+    if (e.button !== 0 || !(canMove || canMoveZones) || e.target.closest('a,button')) return;
     e.stopPropagation();
     const ids = box.nodes.filter(id => positions[id]);
     const starts = Object.fromEntries(ids.map(id => [id, { ...positions[id] }]));
@@ -518,23 +523,45 @@
     // Zones cannot cover each other: the frame stops at the edge of another zone.
     const zone = toBox(box);
     const others = zoneBoxes(graph, positions, sizes).filter(z => z.id !== box.id).map(toBox);
-    let moved = false;
+    let moved = null; // { x, y }: how far the zone moved
     capture(header, e.pointerId);
     begin('zone');
     track(header, ev => {
       if (!moved && Math.hypot(ev.clientX - origin.cx, ev.clientY - origin.cy) < 4) return;
       const spot = freeSpot({ ...zone, x: zone.x + (ev.clientX - origin.cx) / view.z, y: zone.y + (ev.clientY - origin.cy) / view.z }, others);
       if (!spot) return;
-      moved = true;
-      const dx = spot.x - zone.x;
-      const dy = spot.y - zone.y;
-      for (const id of ids) positions[id] = { x: starts[id].x + dx, y: starts[id].y + dy };
+      moved = { x: spot.x - zone.x, y: spot.y - zone.y };
+      for (const id of ids) positions[id] = { x: starts[id].x + moved.x, y: starts[id].y + moved.y };
     }, () => {
-      if (moved) queueSave(Object.fromEntries(ids.map(id => [id, { ...positions[id] }])));
+      if (moved && canMove) queueSave(Object.fromEntries(ids.map(id => [id, { ...positions[id] }])));
+      else if (moved) saveZones(box.id, moved);
       end('zone');
     });
   }
 
+  /**
+   * Projects canvas: saves the place of a moved zone. Zones that are still placed automatically are saved where they
+   * are too, so they do not move into the space the zone left.
+   */
+  async function saveZones(id, delta) {
+    const saved = Object.fromEntries(Object.entries(zoneOrigins)
+      .filter(([zoneId]) => zoneId === id || !isPlaced(full.zones.find(z => z.id === zoneId)?.position))
+      .map(([zoneId, at]) => [zoneId, zoneId === id ? { x: Math.round(at.x + delta.x), y: Math.round(at.y + delta.y) } : at]));
+    hold(settling.zones, saved);
+    try {
+      await api('PATCH', `${base}/positions`, { positions: saved });
+      settle(settling.zones, saved);
+    } catch (e) {
+      release(settling.zones, saved);
+      if (destroyed) return;
+      toast(e.message, true);
+      load({ quiet: true });
+      return;
+    }
+    if (!destroyed) applyGraph(full);
+  }
+  const isPlaced = p => !!p && Number.isFinite(p.x) && Number.isFinite(p.y);
+
   /** Server view: drag a project / environment group inside its server zone; it cannot cover another group. */
   function startGroupDrag(frame, header, e) {
     if (e.button !== 0 || !canMoveGroups || !frame.key || !groupMeta[frame.key] || e.target.closest('a')) return;
@@ -544,7 +571,18 @@
     const starts = Object.fromEntries(ids.map(id => [id, { ...positions[id] }]));
     const box = toBox(frame);
     const others = frames.filter(f => f !== frame && f.zone === frame.zone).map(toBox);
-    const fits = b => b.x >= meta.inner.x && b.y >= meta.inner.y;
+    // Projects canvas: zones can sit anywhere, so the group's zone must not grow over another zone.
+    const otherZones = canMoveZones ? boxes.filter(z => z.id !== frame.zone).map(toBox) : [];
+    const top = ZONE_PADDING + zoneHeader(boxes.find(z => z.id === frame.zone)?.zone);
+    const zoneAround = b => {
+      const all = [...others, b];
+      const x = Math.min(...all.map(f => f.x));
+      const y = Math.min(...all.map(f => f.y));
+      const w = Math.max(...all.map(f => f.x + f.w)) - x;
+      const h = Math.max(...all.map(f => f.y + f.h)) - y;
+      return { x: x - ZONE_PADDING, y: y - top, w: w + ZONE_PADDING * 2, h: h + ZONE_PADDING + top };
+    };
+    const fits = b => b.x >= meta.inner.x && b.y >= meta.inner.y && otherZones.every(z => apart(zoneAround(b), z, BOX_GAP));
     const origin = { cx: e.clientX, cy: e.clientY };
     let moved = false;
     capture(header, e.pointerId);
@@ -722,10 +760,12 @@
     const kept = Object.fromEntries(Object.entries(settling.positions).map(([id, s]) => [id, s.at]));
     next.positions = { ...next.positions, ...kept, ...Object.fromEntries(Object.entries(unsaved).map(([id, p]) => [id, { x: p.x, y: p.y }])) };
     if (Object.keys(settling.saved).length) next.nodes = next.nodes.map(n => (settling.saved[n.id] ? { ...n, saved: settling.saved[n.id].at } : n));
+    if (Object.keys(settling.zones).length) next.zones = next.zones.map(z => (settling.zones[z.id] ? { ...z, position: settling.zones[z.id].at } : z));
     full = next;
     const shown = groupByUse(filterGraph(next, filter));
     groupMeta = {};
-    positions = shown.layout === 'server' ? layoutServerView(shown, groupMeta) : layoutGraph(shown);
+    zoneOrigins = {};
+    positions = shown.layout === 'server' ? layoutServerView(shown, groupMeta, { zones: zoneOrigins }) : layoutGraph(shown);
     graph = shown;
     error = null;
     if (hover && !nodeById(hover)) hover = null;
@@ -910,7 +950,7 @@
       <div class="absolute top-0 left-0 origin-top-left">
         <div class="absolute top-0 left-0">
           {#each boxes as box (box.id ?? '__none')}
-            <Zone {box} movable={canMove} nodes={box.nodes.map(nodeById).filter(Boolean)} usage={usage[box.id]} onpress={(e, header) => startZoneDrag(box, header, e)} />
+            <Zone {box} movable={canMove || canMoveZones} grabBody={canMoveZones} nodes={box.nodes.map(nodeById).filter(Boolean)} usage={usage[box.id]} onpress={(e, header) => startZoneDrag(box, header, e)} />
           {/each}
         </div>
         <!-- Server view: project / environment frames inside the server zones. -->
diff --git a/resources/js/canvas/environment/Zone.svelte b/resources/js/canvas/environment/Zone.svelte
index a4f65a3b7e..d2b51c1bce 100644
--- a/resources/js/canvas/environment/Zone.svelte
+++ b/resources/js/canvas/environment/Zone.svelte
@@ -1,16 +1,18 @@
 <script>
   // A zone frame (server, or a group of the connect view) with its header; the header drags the zone.
+  // grabBody (projects canvas): the whole frame drags the zone, so a press on its empty space does not pan the canvas.
   // Server canvas zones (zone.details) add a second row: host facts, proxy, live usage and a status summary.
   import { formatMemory, formatUptime, NO_SERVER, statusSummary, zoneHeader } from '../../environment-canvas.js';
   import Icon from './Icon.svelte';
 
-  let { box, movable, onpress, nodes = [], usage = null } = $props();
+  let { box, movable, grabBody = false, onpress, nodes = [], usage = null } = $props();
+  let frame;
   let header;
   // The server IP stays hidden until the user asks for it (screen sharing, screenshots).
   let showIp = $state(false);
   const zone = $derived(box.zone);
   const ok = $derived(zone?.is_reachable && zone?.is_usable);
-  const title = $derived(movable ? 'Drag to move every card in this zone' : !zone ? 'Resources without a server' : undefined);
+  const title = $derived(movable ? (grabBody ? 'Drag to move this zone' : 'Drag to move every card in this zone') : !zone ? 'Resources without a server' : undefined);
   const details = $derived(zone?.details);
   const host = $derived(details
     ? [details.os, details.arch, details.cpus ? `${details.cpus} ${details.cpus === 1 ? 'CPU' : 'CPUs'}` : null, formatMemory(details.memory_bytes), details.uptime_since && formatUptime(details.uptime_since) ? `up ${formatUptime(details.uptime_since)}` : null].filter(Boolean)
@@ -29,14 +31,19 @@
   const sep = 'h-3 w-px shrink-0 bg-neutral-200 dark:bg-white/[0.1]';
 </script>
 
+<!-- svelte-ignore a11y_no_static_element_interactions -->
 <div
-  class="absolute rounded-2xl border border-neutral-200 bg-[color-mix(in_oklab,var(--color-neutral-50),white_50%)] dark:border-white/[0.07] dark:bg-[color-mix(in_oklab,var(--color-app),var(--color-panel)_35%)]"
+  bind:this={frame}
+  class="absolute rounded-2xl border border-neutral-200 bg-[color-mix(in_oklab,var(--color-neutral-50),white_50%)] dark:border-white/[0.07] dark:bg-[color-mix(in_oklab,var(--color-app),var(--color-panel)_35%)] {grabBody ? 'cursor-grab active:cursor-grabbing' : ''}"
+  data-ec-zone-drag={grabBody || undefined}
+  title={grabBody ? title : undefined}
+  onpointerdown={grabBody ? e => onpress(e, frame) : undefined}
   style:left="{box.x}px"
   style:top="{box.y}px"
   style:width="{box.width}px"
   style:height="{box.height}px"
 >
-  <div bind:this={header} class="px-4 {movable ? 'cursor-grab active:cursor-grabbing' : ''}" style:height="{zoneHeader(zone)}px" data-ec-zone-header {title} role="presentation" onpointerdown={e => onpress(e, header)}>
+  <div bind:this={header} class="px-4 {movable ? 'cursor-grab active:cursor-grabbing' : ''}" style:height="{zoneHeader(zone)}px" data-ec-zone-header title={grabBody ? undefined : title} role="presentation" onpointerdown={grabBody ? undefined : e => onpress(e, header)}>
     <div class="flex h-10 items-center gap-2 text-[12px]">
       <Icon name={zone?.icon || 'server'} class="size-3.5 text-neutral-400 dark:text-fg-faint" />
       <a class="truncate font-semibold text-neutral-700 dark:text-fg [&[href]]:cursor-pointer [&[href]]:underline-offset-2 [&[href]]:hover:underline" href={zone?.link || undefined} draggable="false">{box.name || NO_SERVER}</a>
diff --git a/resources/js/environment-canvas.js b/resources/js/environment-canvas.js
index 3e4311726b..8da3789d05 100644
--- a/resources/js/environment-canvas.js
+++ b/resources/js/environment-canvas.js
@@ -229,90 +229,123 @@ export const groupKey = (nodes, zoneId) => {
 };
 
 /**
- * Server view: zones stack downwards. A group with cards saved on its environment canvas (node.saved) sits where
+ * Server view: zones stack downwards; a zone with a saved place (zone.position, projects canvas) sits there and the
+ * stacked zones keep clear of it. A group with cards saved on its environment canvas (node.saved) sits where
  * those cards are, so the server canvas and the environment canvas share one position (a group that would
  * leave the zone or cover another group moves to the nearest free spot). Other groups follow below,
  * GROUPS_PER_ROW per row. When `groups` is given, it gets per group key its frame top-left, the zone's inner
- * top-left, and `shift`: environment canvas position = server view position - shift.
+ * top-left, and `shift`: environment canvas position = server view position - shift. When `zones` is given,
+ * it gets per zone id the zone's top-left (the place that zone.position saves).
  */
-export function layoutServerView(graph, groups = null, { compact = false } = {}) {
+export function layoutServerView(graph, groups = null, { compact = false, zones = null } = {}) {
   const out = {};
+  const laid = zoneGroups(graph).map(zone => ({ zone, ...layoutServerZone(zone, graph.links || [], compact) }));
+  // Saved zones first, so the stacked zones can keep clear of them.
+  const taken = [];
+  const put = (l, origin) => {
+    for (const [id, p] of Object.entries(l.positions)) out[id] = { x: origin.x + p.x, y: origin.y + p.y };
+    for (const [key, g] of Object.entries(groups ? l.groups : {})) {
+      groups[key] = {
+        x: origin.x + g.x,
+        y: origin.y + g.y,
+        inner: { x: origin.x + g.inner.x, y: origin.y + g.inner.y },
+        shift: { x: origin.x + g.shift.x, y: origin.y + g.shift.y },
+      };
+    }
+    if (zones && l.zone.id != null) zones[l.zone.id] = { ...origin };
+    taken.push({ x: origin.x - ZONE_PADDING, y: origin.y, w: l.width + ZONE_PADDING * 2, h: l.height });
+  };
+  const savedPlace = l => (isPoint(l.zone.zone?.position) ? { x: Number(l.zone.zone.position.x), y: Number(l.zone.zone.position.y) } : null);
+  for (const l of laid.filter(savedPlace)) put(l, savedPlace(l));
+  const pinned = taken.slice();
   let y = 0;
-  for (const zone of zoneGroups(graph)) {
-    const inner = { x: 0, y: y + zoneHeader(zone.zone) + ZONE_PADDING };
-    const blocks = contextGroups(zone.nodes).map(([, nodes]) => {
-      const saved = nodes.filter(n => isPoint(n.saved));
-      const block = layoutBlock(nodes, graph.links || []);
-      return {
-        key: groupKey(nodes, zone.id),
-        nodes,
-        block,
-        size: { w: block.width + GROUP_PADDING * 2, h: GROUP_HEADER + GROUP_PADDING * 2 + block.height },
-        at: saved.length ? { x: Math.min(...saved.map(n => Number(n.saved.x))), y: Math.min(...saved.map(n => Number(n.saved.y))) } : null,
-      };
-    });
-    // Empty environments (placeholder cards only) go next to the other groups after these are placed.
-    const isEmpty = b => b.nodes.every(n => n.type === 'empty');
-    const pinned = blocks.filter(b => b.at).sort((a, b) => a.at.y - b.at.y || a.at.x - b.at.x);
-    // The environment canvas puts its first cards below a zone header; those land at the zone's top-left here.
-    const shift = { x: inner.x + GROUP_PADDING, y: inner.y + GROUP_HEADER + GROUP_PADDING - ZONE_HEADER - ZONE_PADDING };
-    const frames = [];
-    const place = ({ key, block, size }, left, top) => {
-      frames.push({ x: left, y: top });
-      for (const [id, p] of Object.entries(block.positions)) {
-        out[id] = { x: left + GROUP_PADDING + p.x, y: top + GROUP_HEADER + GROUP_PADDING + p.y };
-      }
-      if (groups && key) groups[key] = { x: left, y: top, inner, shift };
-      return top + size.h;
-    };
-    const taken = [];
-    const inside = b => b.x >= inner.x && b.y >= inner.y;
-    let bottom = inner.y;
-    for (const b of pinned) {
-      // Environment canvas positions can be left of or above the zone (negative coordinates): keep the group inside.
-      const wanted = {
-        x: Math.max(inner.x, b.at.x + shift.x - GROUP_PADDING),
-        y: Math.max(inner.y, b.at.y + shift.y - GROUP_HEADER - GROUP_PADDING),
-        ...b.size,
-      };
-      const spot = freeSpot(wanted, taken, GROUP_GAP, inside) || wanted;
-      taken.push({ ...spot, project: b.nodes[0]?.project?.uuid });
-      bottom = Math.max(bottom, place(b, spot.x, spot.y));
-    }
-    let x = 0;
-    let rowTop = pinned.length ? bottom + GROUP_GAP : inner.y;
-    let rowBottom = rowTop;
-    blocks.filter(b => !b.at && !isEmpty(b)).forEach((b, i) => {
-      if (i > 0 && i % GROUPS_PER_ROW === 0) {
-        x = 0;
-        rowTop = rowBottom + GROUP_GAP;
-      }
-      taken.push({ x, y: rowTop, ...b.size, project: b.nodes[0]?.project?.uuid });
-      rowBottom = Math.max(rowBottom, place(b, x, rowTop));
-      x += b.size.w + GROUP_GAP;
-    });
-    bottom = Math.max(bottom, rowBottom);
-    // Right of the last group of the same project (or of the zone), at the nearest free spot.
-    for (const b of blocks.filter(b => !b.at && isEmpty(b))) {
-      const project = b.nodes[0]?.project?.uuid;
-      const anchor = taken.filter(t => t.project === project).at(-1) || taken.at(-1);
-      const wanted = anchor ? { x: anchor.x + anchor.w + GROUP_GAP, y: anchor.y, ...b.size } : { ...inner, ...b.size };
-      const spot = freeSpot(wanted, taken, GROUP_GAP, inside) || wanted;
-      taken.push({ ...spot, project });
-      bottom = Math.max(bottom, place(b, spot.x, spot.y));
-    }
-    if (compact && frames.length) {
-      // The groups keep their arrangement, but start at the zone's top-left (no empty space from saved positions).
-      const dx = inner.x - Math.min(...frames.map(f => f.x));
-      const dy = inner.y - Math.min(...frames.map(f => f.y));
-      for (const n of zone.nodes) if (out[n.id]) out[n.id] = { x: out[n.id].x + dx, y: out[n.id].y + dy };
-      bottom += dy;
-    }
-    y = bottom + ZONE_PADDING + ZONE_GAP;
+  for (const l of laid.filter(l => !savedPlace(l))) {
+    const wanted = { x: -ZONE_PADDING, y, w: l.width + ZONE_PADDING * 2, h: l.height };
+    const spot = (pinned.length && freeSpot(wanted, pinned, ZONE_GAP, b => b.x === wanted.x && b.y >= y)) || wanted;
+    put(l, { x: 0, y: spot.y });
+    y = spot.y + l.height + ZONE_GAP;
   }
   return out;
 }
 
+/** One zone of the server view laid out at the origin (see layoutServerView). */
+function layoutServerZone(zone, links, compact) {
+  const out = {};
+  const groups = {};
+  const inner = { x: 0, y: zoneHeader(zone.zone) + ZONE_PADDING };
+  const blocks = contextGroups(zone.nodes).map(([, nodes]) => {
+    const saved = nodes.filter(n => isPoint(n.saved));
+    const block = layoutBlock(nodes, links);
+    return {
+      key: groupKey(nodes, zone.id),
+      nodes,
+      block,
+      size: { w: block.width + GROUP_PADDING * 2, h: GROUP_HEADER + GROUP_PADDING * 2 + block.height },
+      at: saved.length ? { x: Math.min(...saved.map(n => Number(n.saved.x))), y: Math.min(...saved.map(n => Number(n.saved.y))) } : null,
+    };
+  });
+  // Empty environments (placeholder cards only) go next to the other groups after these are placed.
+  const isEmpty = b => b.nodes.every(n => n.type === 'empty');
+  const pinned = blocks.filter(b => b.at).sort((a, b) => a.at.y - b.at.y || a.at.x - b.at.x);
+  // The environment canvas puts its first cards below a zone header; those land at the zone's top-left here.
+  const shift = { x: inner.x + GROUP_PADDING, y: inner.y + GROUP_HEADER + GROUP_PADDING - ZONE_HEADER - ZONE_PADDING };
+  const frames = [];
+  const place = ({ key, block, size }, left, top) => {
+    frames.push({ x: left, y: top, w: size.w });
+    for (const [id, p] of Object.entries(block.positions)) {
+      out[id] = { x: left + GROUP_PADDING + p.x, y: top + GROUP_HEADER + GROUP_PADDING + p.y };
+    }
+    if (key) groups[key] = { x: left, y: top, inner, shift };
+    return top + size.h;
+  };
+  const taken = [];
+  const inside = b => b.x >= inner.x && b.y >= inner.y;
+  let bottom = inner.y;
+  for (const b of pinned) {
+    // Environment canvas positions can be left of or above the zone (negative coordinates): keep the group inside.
+    const wanted = {
+      x: Math.max(inner.x, b.at.x + shift.x - GROUP_PADDING),
+      y: Math.max(inner.y, b.at.y + shift.y - GROUP_HEADER - GROUP_PADDING),
+      ...b.size,
+    };
+    const spot = freeSpot(wanted, taken, GROUP_GAP, inside) || wanted;
+    taken.push({ ...spot, project: b.nodes[0]?.project?.uuid });
+    bottom = Math.max(bottom, place(b, spot.x, spot.y));
+  }
+  let x = 0;
+  let rowTop = pinned.length ? bottom + GROUP_GAP : inner.y;
+  let rowBottom = rowTop;
+  blocks.filter(b => !b.at && !isEmpty(b)).forEach((b, i) => {
+    if (i > 0 && i % GROUPS_PER_ROW === 0) {
+      x = 0;
+      rowTop = rowBottom + GROUP_GAP;
+    }
+    taken.push({ x, y: rowTop, ...b.size, project: b.nodes[0]?.project?.uuid });
+    rowBottom = Math.max(rowBottom, place(b, x, rowTop));
+    x += b.size.w + GROUP_GAP;
+  });
+  bottom = Math.max(bottom, rowBottom);
+  // Right of the last group of the same project (or of the zone), at the nearest free spot.
+  for (const b of blocks.filter(b => !b.at && isEmpty(b))) {
+    const project = b.nodes[0]?.project?.uuid;
+    const anchor = taken.filter(t => t.project === project).at(-1) || taken.at(-1);
+    const wanted = anchor ? { x: anchor.x + anchor.w + GROUP_GAP, y: anchor.y, ...b.size } : { ...inner, ...b.size };
+    const spot = freeSpot(wanted, taken, GROUP_GAP, inside) || wanted;
+    taken.push({ ...spot, project });
+    bottom = Math.max(bottom, place(b, spot.x, spot.y));
+  }
+  if (compact && frames.length) {
+    // The groups keep their arrangement, but start at the zone's top-left (no empty space from saved positions).
+    const dx = inner.x - Math.min(...frames.map(f => f.x));
+    const dy = inner.y - Math.min(...frames.map(f => f.y));
+    for (const n of zone.nodes) if (out[n.id]) out[n.id] = { x: out[n.id].x + dx, y: out[n.id].y + dy };
+    for (const f of frames) f.x += dx;
+    bottom += dy;
+  }
+  const width = Math.max(0, ...frames.map(f => f.x + f.w), zone.zone?.details ? SERVER_ZONE_MIN_WIDTH - ZONE_PADDING * 2 : 0);
+  return { positions: out, groups, width, height: bottom + ZONE_PADDING };
+}
+
 /**
  * Shared variables view: variable cards in one column on the left (by name). Resources that use a
  * variable sit next to them in one column, grouped by project / environment, so every link runs
diff --git a/resources/js/environment-canvas.test.js b/resources/js/environment-canvas.test.js
index e88dcd9904..015a997028 100644
--- a/resources/js/environment-canvas.test.js
+++ b/resources/js/environment-canvas.test.js
@@ -668,3 +668,33 @@ test('variables view: saved environment canvas positions do not push resources a
   assert.equal(resources.y, variables.y, 'both zones start at the top');
   assert.ok(resources.x - (variables.x + variables.width) <= ZONE_GAP * 2, 'resources sit next to the variables');
 });
+
+test('projects canvas: a zone with a saved place sits there, also above the other zones', () => {
+  const g = {
+    layout: 'server',
+    zones: [{ id: 'z1', name: 'Blog' }, { id: 'z2', name: 'Shop', position: { x: 900, y: -400 } }],
+    nodes: [envNode('a', 'application', 'z1', 'prod'), envNode('b', 'application', 'z2', 'prod')],
+    links: [],
+  };
+  const groups = {};
+  const zones = {};
+  const positions = layoutServerView(g, groups, { zones });
+  assert.deepEqual(zones, { z1: { x: 0, y: 0 }, z2: { x: 900, y: -400 } });
+  const box = zoneBoxes(g, positions).find(z => z.id === 'z2');
+  assert.deepEqual({ x: box.x + ZONE_PADDING, y: box.y }, { x: 900, y: -400 });
+  // The group of the moved zone keeps its environment canvas mapping relative to the zone.
+  assert.equal(groups['prod:z2'].inner.y, -400 + ZONE_HEADER + ZONE_PADDING);
+});
+
+test('projects canvas: zones without a saved place stack below a saved zone that is in their way', () => {
+  const g = {
+    layout: 'server',
+    zones: [{ id: 'z1', name: 'Blog', position: { x: 0, y: 0 } }, { id: 'z2', name: 'Shop' }, { id: 'z3', name: 'Wiki' }],
+    nodes: [envNode('a', 'application', 'z1', 'prod'), envNode('b', 'application', 'z2', 'prod'), envNode('c', 'application', 'z3', 'prod')],
+    links: [],
+  };
+  const positions = layoutServerView(g);
+  const boxes = Object.fromEntries(zoneBoxes(g, positions).map(z => [z.id, z]));
+  assert.ok(boxes.z2.y >= boxes.z1.y + boxes.z1.height + ZONE_GAP);
+  assert.ok(boxes.z3.y >= boxes.z2.y + boxes.z2.height + ZONE_GAP);
+});
diff --git a/routes/web.php b/routes/web.php
index 27e1bfa892..22d2c5e1e8 100644
--- a/routes/web.php
+++ b/routes/web.php
@@ -203,6 +203,7 @@ Route::middleware(['auth', 'verified'])->group(function () {
         Route::get('/projects', [ProjectController::class, 'projects'])->middleware(['api.ability:read']);
         Route::post('/projects', [ProjectController::class, 'create_project'])->middleware(['api.ability:write']);
         Route::get('/projects/canvas', [ProjectCanvasController::class, 'index'])->middleware(['api.ability:read']);
+        Route::patch('/projects/canvas/positions', [ProjectCanvasController::class, 'updatePositions'])->middleware(['api.ability:write']);
         Route::get('/projects/{uuid}/canvas', [ProjectCanvasController::class, 'show'])->middleware(['api.ability:read']);
         Route::get('/projects/{uuid}/environments', [ProjectController::class, 'get_environments'])->middleware(['api.ability:read']);
         Route::post('/projects/{uuid}/environments', [ProjectController::class, 'create_environment'])->middleware(['api.ability:write']);
diff --git a/tests/Feature/ProjectCanvasTest.php b/tests/Feature/ProjectCanvasTest.php
index d198517f46..db02a05736 100644
--- a/tests/Feature/ProjectCanvasTest.php
+++ b/tests/Feature/ProjectCanvasTest.php
@@ -269,3 +269,61 @@ test('a member cannot create an environment from the project canvas', function (
 
     expect($this->project->environments()->where('name', 'testing')->exists())->toBeFalse();
 });
+
+test('an admin moves project zones on the projects canvas and the canvas returns their place', function () {
+    $blog = Project::factory()->create(['team_id' => $this->team->id, 'name' => 'Blog']);
+    // Another team's project with the same request stays as it is.
+    $foreign = Project::factory()->create(['team_id' => Team::factory()->create()->id]);
+
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $this->admin, $this->team)
+        ->getJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas')
+        ->assertJsonPath('can_move_zones', true)
+        ->assertJsonPath('zones.0.position', null);
+
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $this->admin, $this->team)
+        ->patchJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas/positions', ['positions' => [
+            $this->project->uuid => ['x' => 640, 'y' => -120],
+            $blog->uuid => ['x' => 0, 'y' => 0],
+            $foreign->uuid => ['x' => 5, 'y' => 5],
+        ]])
+        ->assertOk()
+        ->assertJsonPath("positions.{$this->project->uuid}", ['x' => 640, 'y' => -120])
+        ->assertJsonMissingPath("positions.{$foreign->uuid}");
+
+    expect($foreign->fresh()->canvas_position)->toBeNull();
+    // Zones are sorted by name: Blog, Shop.
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $this->admin, $this->team)
+        ->getJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas')
+        ->assertJsonPath('zones.0.position', ['x' => 0, 'y' => 0])
+        ->assertJsonPath('zones.1.position', ['x' => 640, 'y' => -120]);
+});
+
+test('project zone positions must be whole coordinates on the canvas', function () {
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $this->admin, $this->team)
+        ->patchJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas/positions', ['positions' => [$this->project->uuid => ['x' => 'left', 'y' => 999999999]]])
+        ->assertUnprocessable()
+        ->assertJsonValidationErrors(["positions.{$this->project->uuid}.x", "positions.{$this->project->uuid}.y"]);
+
+    expect($this->project->fresh()->canvas_position)->toBeNull();
+});
+
+test('members and other teams cannot move a project zone', function () {
+    $member = User::factory()->create();
+    $this->team->members()->attach($member->id, ['role' => 'member']);
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $member, $this->team)
+        ->getJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas')
+        ->assertJsonPath('can_move_zones', false);
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $member, $this->team)
+        ->patchJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas/positions', ['positions' => [$this->project->uuid => ['x' => 10, 'y' => 10]]])
+        ->assertForbidden();
+
+    // Admin of this team, owner of another team, with the session switched to the other team.
+    $otherTeam = Team::factory()->create(['show_boarding' => false]);
+    $otherTeam->members()->attach($this->admin->id, ['role' => 'owner']);
+    projectCanvasSession($this, $this->admin, $otherTeam)
+        ->patchJson('/canvas/api/projects/canvas/positions', ['positions' => [$this->project->uuid => ['x' => 10, 'y' => 10]]])
+        ->assertOk()
+        ->assertJsonPath('positions', []);
+
+    expect($this->project->fresh()->canvas_position)->toBeNull();
+});